McCann Fund Fraud

Overwhelming evidence shows that Madeleine McCann died in or near apartment 5A at the Ocean Club Resort in Praia da Luz in Portugal. Madeleine met her demise sometime between May 1 and May 3. Read the evidence in this website. The Fund they set up to look for Madeleine is fraudulent if any person involved in the case knew Madeleine was dead at the time it was set up. If you made a donation to the Madeleine Fund and are not happy with how your donation has been spent, please contact the site so we can form a group who can litigate against Madeleine's Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited.

McCanns were broke in 2007

Back in the summer of 2007 when the McCanns stayed in Portugal for four months following the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine, the two wealthy doctors were in financial difficulty. Gerry McCann’s sister Patricia recently revealed that family members helped them to pay the mortgage payments on their house in Rothley, Leicestershire.

Quoted in the Daily Record (here), Patricia Cameron said:

“It is so hard to watch Kate and Gerry push themselves constantly. When Madeleine first went missing, family and friends had to step in to help them pay the mortgage.

“Money is constantly tight but they have to keep going. They will never give up looking and that costs money. Families of the missing still need to pay bills while they search but there is no right to any financial help.”

Back at the end of October 2007, it was revealed that the McCanns had used the fund set up to look for their daughter to pay mortgage payments on their home. This, understandably caused an outrage and their spokesman Clarence Mitchell clarified the situation in a BBC article (here). Mitchell said:

“The fund has always had the ability to assist the family financially if necessary. Kate and Gerry McCann stopped using the fund in September when they were made formal suspects in the case.”

Money, or lack of it, is always a motive in a homicide case. Why did the British Government deny the Portuguese police the necessary financial information on Kate Healy and Gerry McCann? Surely in a homicide case this information was crucial to the investigators in trying to establish if there was a motive behind Madeleine’s disappearance. Patrica Cameron has revealed what a lot of people believed at the time – that Madeleine McCann’s parents were in financial difficulty.

Here is the full article as published in the Daily Record on December 23, 2010:

Madeleine McCann’s aunt explains why she has joined charity for missing people.. and how search for little girl goes on

Dec 23 2010 Exclusive by Annie Brown

IN the window of Patricia Cameron’s porch is a photo of her niece Madeleine McCann with the caption, “Still missing, still missed, still looking.”

Another Christmas is about to pass, the fourth since Madeleine disappeared in May 2007, leaving only pain and longing behind.

Patricia said: “Christmas is one of the toughest times. But every family occasion is marred because there is a little person who is not there.

“It doesn’t get any easier. If anything, it gets harder.”

This week, Patricia became a family representative for the charity Missing People, who help with searches and support those left behind.

She wanted to take on the role to highlight the plight of the many left with a void in their life – the parents, the children, the sisters, the brothers, the uncles and the aunts of the missing.

The organisation are asking the Government to give families of missing people the same rights as victims of crime, access to legal and financial assistance and emotional support.

It hurts Patricia deeply to watch her little brother Gerry and his wife Kate grow emotionally and physically weaker because of the loss and endless searching for Madeleine.

Patricia said: “Gerry is the baby of the family. I feel very protective and it hurts me to see him looking so tired. They are both just exhausted. They have so much on their plate.

“They are overwhelmed by trying to be breadwinners, investigators and parents. That’s why I support the Missing Rights campaign. People need all the help they can get.”

Madeleine was snatched from the Portuguese holiday resort of Praia da Luz in the Algarve on May 3, 2007, as Gerry and Kate dined nearby.

For the McCanns, there was a desperate need for funds to pay for legal advice and a worldwide search.

Patricia said: “It is so hard to watch Kate and Gerry push themselves constantly. When Madeleine first went missing, family and friends had to step in to help them pay the mortgage.

“Money is constantly tight but they have to keep going. They will never give up looking and that costs money. Families of the missing still need to pay bills while they search but there is no right to any financial help.”

After Madeleine disappeared, Patricia took on the role of babysitter for Kate and Gerry’s twins, Sean and Amelie, now five, while their parents searched.

As a result, there is a close bond between Patricia and the children.

She bathes the twins when she visits the McCanns and chats to them about Madeleine and her memories of her.

Patricia said: “Kate listens sometimes. It is always nice for her to hear someone else’s memories of Madeleine, something more of her little girl.”

There are treasured photos of Madeleine as a toddler, with her aunt holding her in her arms. Patricia was Madeleine’s godmother and there was a special bond between them.

When Patricia and her mum, Eileen, visited her son, Paul, who was studying medicine at Cambridge, she would pick Madeleine up from the nearby McCann family home and take her on a special day out.

Patricia said: “She would say to the twins they were too little to come and so it was just her. That made her feel grown-up. We would have lunch and feed ducks in the park. Not expensive things, just precious memories.

“There were times she had my mum and I in stitches. She was so sharp and funny.”

And Patricia remembers vividly a holiday in Ireland with 46 extended family and friends, and playing rounders on the beach.

Patricia said: “Madeleine was a little daredevil. She was the only one who would go in the water. It was the Atlantic and it was freezing. She was a determined little thing.”

Madeleine’s grandparents suffer terribly. Eileen and Kate’s parents, Susan and Brian Healy, fear they’ll never see her again.

Patricia said: “My mum and Kate’s parents have become very close. They understand each other and what they are going through.

“It is hard for them. They think about Madeleine all the time and have some terrible days. A friend of my mum’s died recently. When she was sick, she told my mum she would send her a sign from heaven to let her know if Madeleine was there.”

Eileen calls the twins her bonny lassie and bonny laddie, and carries one under each arm.

Patricia added: “They are crazy about their granny.”

Christmas cards from the McCanns are still signed with the names of all three children.

And there are still Christmas presents in Madeleine’s room ready for her to come home.

In the meantime, Kate is exhausted juggling family life with writing a book she hopes will help finance the continued search for her daughter.

It is expected to be in shops next April, to coincide with the fourth anniversary of her disappearance.

Patricia is a nurse and the hands-on carer in the family.

Perhaps that’s why it is unusual for her to take on a task like this for Missing People. The lobbying and the campaigning have always been roles for Gerry and Kate.

But they are just too busy. Patricia spent a few days with them last week to give them a break before Christmas.

She said: “Gerry has changed. He is more serious and is always exhausted. It breaks my heart to see him like that.

“Kate has always been thin but they have just had the cold and she looks even thinner now.

“They are both drained emotionally, psychologically and physically.

“They are on a treadmill. They are trying to do their best for their wee daughter who is missing and they are trying to do their best for the wee twins in front of them.

“That’s why organisations like Missing People are vital. I wish at the beginning we had used the kind of support they offer.”

Patricia will never give up hope that Madeleine will be found.

She said: “There are cases of people being hidden and kept for years and those cases give you hope. You have to think like that.

“She could be alive. We just haven’t found her.”

There were over 40,000 incidents of people going missing in Scotland last year.

Missing People have caring, highly skilled staff and volunteers working around the clock all over the UK.

The role of Family Representative is the first of several planned new volunteer opportunities available in Scotland, and involves acting as a spokesperson to the media and local community.

See www.missingpeople.org.uk

Three years of heartbreak

TIMELINE

May 3, 2007 Madeleine disappears from Praia da Luz, days before her fourth birthday.

May 7, 2007 Police release a description of the kidnapper.

May 10, 2007 Police question Kate and Gerry about why their kids were alone in the apartment.

May 11, 2007 Search of local area called off.

May 12, 2007 Madeleine’s fourth birthday.

May 15, 2007 Local resident Robert Murat is named as an official suspect.

Late May 2007 McCanns enlist help of private investigators.

May 30, 2007 McCanns meet the Pope in Rome.

June 17, 2007 Chief Inspector Olegario Sousa claims vital clues may have been destroyed.

September 7, 2007 Gerry and Kate named as suspects.

September 9, 2007 Gerry and Kate return home.

September 16, 2007 Sir Richard Branson donates £100,000 for McCanns’ legal bill.

October 2, 2007 Policeman in charge of inquiry is removed from case and demoted.

November 1, 2007 Gerry returns to work as surgeon.

July 21, 2008 Robert Murat and Kate and Gerry McCann have official suspect status lifted.

July 21, 2008 Portuguese attorney general archives the case. It can be reopened if new evidence comes to light.

May 1, 2009 A projected photo of Madeleine aged six is released.

May 22, 2009 Convicted paedophile Raymond Hewlett denies anything to do with Madeleine’s disappearance.

December 21, 2009 Facebook page claiming to be created by Madeleine’s kidnapper is removed.

January 28, 2010 On 1000th day since disappearance, McCanns host a £150-a-head fundraising dinner.

November 2, 2010 McCanns launch online petition calling for joint review of the case by Portuguese and UK governments.

November 3, 2010 McCanns appeal for cash as Find Madeleine Fund, which once topped £2million, runs dry.

82 comments to McCanns were broke in 2007

  1. Sine
    January 9th, 2011 at 9:08 am

    What a heap of crap!

    Yet another NHS Nazi that think’s man made Charity mean’s Love, just like a paedophile that think’s sexually abusing children is Love and not a crime… Patricia should wake up to reality, cause there’s no way the public taxes are going to pay for her mortgage, holidays and a free rid on the back of a faked abduction to conceal a paedo ring, like taking Madeleine to see uncle Paul, yet another NHS Nazi candidate!!!

  2. Alice
    February 8th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    What is the recent news in this case?
    It’s been years now, and I am sick to death with the tv appearances and interviews showing fake emotions and bad acting from the parents of this poor little girl.
    After reading all the evidence in this case, I am convinced they are guilty.
    How come police dropped charges against them, how come they have never been pushed to answer simple questions about the night Madeleine disappeared? About their strange behavior, their wrong reactions? We have all heard and seen documentaries about abducted children, a grieving parent, a desperate to find their child parent, is something else!! These folks are the trash of humanity!
    Is the case simply closed? Shame of Great Brittain if that is so and they never pay for what they did. Seeing them in interviews, their fake faces and staged behavior, just makes me want to slap them.
    Madeleine is better off far from them, that’s for sure.

    Site Admin: To answer your question, you need only consider that the British Police are controlled by Freemasons. Freemasons are on the board of the Madeleine Fund and they set up the fund in the first place. They have been protecting the McCanns since day 1. Gerry McCann has secrets that they would rather not let out and therefore the British Media and British Government are protecting them. The same thing happened with Thomas Hamilton in the 90s but in his case he was shot dead.

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  4. Miss Marple
    February 18th, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    This once great country of ours is now rotten to the core with fraud and corruption, and Freemasons are the direct cause of it. Hang the lot of them I say.

  5. Alice
    February 21st, 2011 at 6:49 am

    I thank you for your answer.
    Is it a well known fact, that Freemasons control British Police, do you have proof?
    I hope people cease to give them money, and that they get, if not thrown into jail, at least widely and internationally considered as guilty bastards who got away with child murder.
    The fact British police protect them, doesn’t explain why they are so warmly welcomed all over the planet, the Pope, Oprah, etc. And they parade like stars, it’s unbelievable!

    Site Admin: Check out this website. You’ll have to pay for the full story but it is worth £1.50 to see how Freemasons have infiltrated and control the British Police: http://www.rebeccatelevision.com/categories/rebecca_tv

  6. ThenThereWere4
    February 24th, 2011 at 8:14 am

    The McCanns had no money in the bank to pay their mortgage in June and July of 2007. Thank god for the fund.

    The ‘affluent McCanns’ was always a media deceit. The Mark Warner holiday camp is nothing more than a Pontins on the Algarve. It’s clientele are not the UK’s wealthy but the Uk’s impoverished middle classes. Another lie.

  7. Megafund Line
    February 27th, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    There’s a FOI quest underway waiting for answers re the fund, I read- and shared. I imagine that it’s about the 100th FOI quest about the fund but anybody who wants a good investigation on it should send one to the Commonwealth and Foreign Office dept. I am shortly sending one also, now that I know where to send it ( please see my blog for the address)

    This present article (above) is currently being largely shared on facebook. This thing is a total, monstruous FRAUD indeed, so we keep yelling, -when I read that only 13% had -vaguely- been used to “look for Madeleine”…I thought that her little body would turn in the ‘shallow grave’…
    Nobody can ignore these forensics so one day, simply the McCanns will deeply, bitterly regret acting the way they have done since… the first May 2007 or else date. (for what was this about the neighbour hearing a little child – oh just like Maddy- crying Daddy! Daddy! for over an hour?! at NIGHT, then her parents say that she was home alone… in the name of WHAT is that unpunished by the British Social Services, on pretence that “they have had enough on their plates”… with their daughter “being abducted”… What do they know about it really? How if the girl had been hired out for the P actions and died this way? – since the GASPARS statements and else photos & Kate’s diary – Are they waiting til the same happens to her sibling? Why does the GOV cover this, was anyone there personally involved? This whole situation is a SHAME.

  8. tom
    March 2nd, 2011 at 2:29 am

    May 7th. 2007. Catholic priest who gave out the keys of the Church is replaced by English priest and midwife.

    May 7th. Miss Tanner says of a man seen to be carrying a child over the road away from the Church in the direction of Robert Murat home.

    Robert Murat is then said to be this abductor.

    Stephen Carpenter says in witness statement that HE was carrying his daughter at this time. It is now produced on the Internet, and was not available at this time for public scrutiny.

    Nunio says of being parked where this man says. Two cars, no abductor.

    Has there been any domestic abductions here or elsewhere?

    Has Jane Tanner not seen this man and wife and children during the holiday as he describes. If so her testimony as ‘expert witness’ has identified this man and made him the ‘abductor’ or arguido.

    Why no correction on current status of proclaimed abductor, as this is now a ‘false confession?

  9. alice fitton
    March 23rd, 2011 at 2:21 am

    I am sure that the whole thing was premeditated. Points: Maddie was nearly four, she would have talked,most certainly if she was a ward of court. Dr. Roberts’ analysis of their interviews indicates they had considerable help disposing of the body. No DNA of the child anywhere in the flat (except the spot where the dogs found it) is ridiculous. 1st May with the frantic use of mobile would be likely date of Maddie’s death. Taking one of the other children of the group to the play area to sign in and out would hardly be difficult. Portugal would be ideal as most British still have the idea that foreign police is inferior to the British police. (no longer alas!) The problem with a group effort is that people simply cannot be relied upon to tell the right lies all the time.
    The McCanns are in the right profession to be persons without empathy. Their behaviour is psychopathic in the extreme, hence their unfeigned self-pity when awkward questions are asked. Money is running out, people are losing faith and I hope the book is a wash-out. Mr. Murdoch and the publishers can afford to lose a bit of cash.

  10. alice Fytton
    May 8th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    It occurred to me that I read in an interviews with one of the assistants of the creche that she hadn’t noticed Madeleine’s eye at all. This may argue for substitution – I would have thought that it would be quite noticeable as eye contact with one’s charges is frequent, certainly at that age. I am looking for that interview, but if anyone else remembers, would like the link.

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  12. Super Sleuth
    June 9th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Alice

    The reason that they did not see the eye mark is because Madaline never went on that holiday.

    Remember that Kate said that Madeleine would not responde to Maddie, so why did the kids club staff use Maddie without any problems.

    Then we have Kate McCanns statement in the Sun regarding that last photo

    THURSDAY May 3, 2007: Some images are etched for all time on my brain. Madeleine that lunchtime is one of them. She was wearing an outfit I’d bought especially for her holiday: a peach-coloured smock top from Gap and some white broderie anglaise shorts from Monsoon.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3573678/I-fear-this-outfit-may-have-led-to-Madeleine-kidnap.html#ixzz1M3bUbMGD

    But the dress is pink and she looks younger than almost 4, is this though the last picture of Madeleine taken prior to the holiday and photoshopped into this picture.

    Then we have Gerry’s version of the picture,

    He also speaks about the moment the last known picture of Madeleine was taken. It shows her sitting alongside her father and her younger brother Sean, dangling their feet in the swimming pool, just seven hours before her disappearance.

    http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/13apr8/Sun-30-04-08.htm
    (about 1/4 of the way down)

    But if that is Sean why is he wearing a dress.

    So who is tennis ball girl what happened to her, and what happened to Madeleine, I have a theory and it isnt looking good for either of these two girls.

  13. alice fitton
    June 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Hello Supersleuth, Very interesting, looking at the tennis ball girl, she looks older and taller than the photoshopped girl in the picture by the swimming pool. I’d been sure there was substitution, but not this early. However, a German psychologist has stated that everything must have been arranged before they left for Portugal. That’s why I looked for a different date, but a date pre holiday hadn’t occurred to me.
    I have to agree with you, it may well be a lot worse than we thought. The skill with photoshop makes me think of use other than holiday snaps. Think of ‘wire in the blood’ by Val McDermid…

  14. Super Sleuth
    June 18th, 2011 at 8:34 am

    Alice

    Well here is my theory as to what happened in 2007 in PDL, they faked an abduction and got rid of a body, thats it nothing else. Madeleine died in PDL in 2006 and either died there in 5a or was stored there, remember flat 5a was not a Mark Warner flat but owned by a Ruth McCann, so how come on the 2007 holiday they were able to have the use of Mark Warner facilities.

    Why did the McCanns say that they didnt trust strangers to look after the kids at night but were happy during the day. Why did the Payne family have a high tec baby monitoring system. Maybe in 2006 a baby minder was hired and she made an error which contributed to Madeleine dying. So you say why not call the police, well maybe an autopsy on Madeleine might reveal something that would inplicate them.

    Now we have MW not wanting a headline ” 3 year old child dies in MW hotel whilst under supervision of a MW employee. ” Who would book a MW holiday.
    The family well depending on what the autopsy would bring out didnt want the police either.

    Now we have a body well how about freezing it say in a cellar in a house say within 10 miles of the appartment, make sure to paddlock it though just in case.

    Now you are going to ask how did they cover the missing person on the airlines booking system, well there is a way but it has security implications so I cannot explain, but trust me its possible.

    So how to cover Madeleine missing in the UK, well thats where her identical twin that was adopted in house comes in, problem is he is a he not a she. Suggest you download that Madeliene photo on that book of fiction, cut and paste just the eyes, mouth, face. Forget about the eye blemish and tell me boy or girl. Problem is soon Maddie would be going to full time school well Maddie the copy dressed as a girl either using the boys room or pulling something out that should not be there in the girls toilet, plus the voice will change.

    So they take another girl in 2007 again no problem Maddies passport was issued 3 months after birth she is now nearly 4 so little chance of being noticed by the passport.

    You will now say ah the staff at MW, the hotel is seasonal so the MW manager makes sure he doesnt hire the same people.

    Ah I hear you say what about the twins, well no problem their, every day they were in the kids club, but in different locations, otherwise they were with one or both of the parents and tapas 7 at night well medicated no problems there.

    Now the abduction well it did happen the girl seen by the Smith family was fake Maddie she was bundled into a car with her real parent and off they go back home. No missing child involved.

    Alice remember no DNA of Madie was found in the flat apart from the blood behind the sofa. Her DNA was taken from the UK house. Now I hear you say it wasnt Maddies hair they used, correct but an identical twin has the same nuclear DNA so a perfect match.

    Now to explain the blood Maddie was supposed to have tripped up on boarding the plane and grazed herself badly, well they could say she fell and it started to bleed again.

    So far so good the local police are looking for a missing child why check a padlocked freezer, what she gets in then locks it no.

    Now this is when plan McCann falls down, the local police dont buy the adbuction ticket, they are now looking for a body, how about a padlocked freezer as an ideal location.

    Now they or a family member had to get that body moved, but it had to be before the dogs barked in 5a you would be stupid to move it later in your hire car.

    Now the missing mile dilema and the 2 hour missing McCann’s in Huelva , well the ground in Portugal is rock hard, so how about a lake. Well unless you are dumb would you carry a dead body, down main roads and cctv cameras so you have to take the longer route, that explains the miles. My money is on when the McCanns did the papal trip, 24 plus hours being watched, but no one watching the hire car. Now on that Huelva trip they disappeared for 2 hours, guess what their is a lake about 42 minutes drive away with a lovely looking boat slip on it hidden by trees.

    So you ask why death on Kates clothes well I think Gerry wasnt there in 2006, yes all the photos apart from tennis ball girl was taken in 2006, the two photos of Gerry isnt him its David Payne with a superimposed Gerry on it, suggest you download Mystery man and last photo plus a photo of David Payne now zoom into the face and you can see a photoshop job.

    So I have things I know that I cannot put on here but what would you say if I have evidence that the Rueters video of Madeleine boarding the plane to Portugal is not what it says it is I will post findings of that later but today I have found some more evidence so need to verify that as well. So why cover that up if in fact it is true so that leads to my theory mentioned above.

    So before you come back, lets look at this.

    No financial records of the tapas 9 provided why?
    No medical record of Madeleine why?

    Financial records of the tapas 9 maybe in 2006 an ATM was used by a member, when they stated to the police that none had been to Portugal before.
    No medical record why because it will say identical twin. That would really put a curve ball into the equation who’s DNA is it Madeleine or twin.

    So do you agree the above is possible.

  15. alice fitton
    June 19th, 2011 at 1:23 am

    Very interesting Supersleuth, although I am mulling over a whole year of preparation. Support for your theory would certainly be the readiness of the publicity material, the website, the fund, political strings that could be pulled. Even a few days would hardly be time to dream all that up. Given that they were in financial straits before they went to PDL, they didn’t miss a trick.
    The right people were hired inasmuch that these were experts in money laundering. This again argues for a well thought out plan, which needed time to develop.
    Setting up the website, the fund, registering Maddie as a trademark, finding the ‘detectives’, the publicity, the government help, two days isn’t enough. A4 sized posters were ready hours after the abduction and so on.
    Certainly 24 hours aren’t enough. The whole thing was a long term plan, documented by interviews.

    The timeline immediately following the 1st of May is therefore also too tight to make all these connections.
    The number and ages of the other children in the tapas group have never been released, neither have photographs surfaced. So one of them could have been the substitute.
    Portugese police is sure body was frozen, so why not for a year?
    I don’t think MW had anything to do with this or that it was an accident due to an employee. The McC’s would then have been able to make plenty of money out of that. If the flat belonged to one of the family, it’s a lot easier.
    Didn’t Gerry take the trouble to dump an old fridge at some stage? Only seen this once somewhere.
    Looking at the analysis of dr. Roberts, his conclusions agree with yours. Then there is Murat, certainly a player in some way. Too smug by half and now in possession of a fat compensation, as are the T9’s.
    The astounding support, the strings pulled behind the scenes, the D-notice slapped on information on a paedophile ring one or two years before 2007 (by Tony Blair). This was info from the US where the feds had found about 3000 names and addresses in the UK on a hard drive they’d seized. Some rumoured to be in government. The D notice was immediately instituted once Scotland Yard had contacted the PM.

    I think you’re right, all the actions of these people from 2006 to 2007 should be analysed. Each one separate.
    Re the photographs, ears are very individual, even in twins, so an exhaustive analysis of all available photographs of Maddie should give some clue. I am very disturbed by some of the photographs where the child is clearly made up.Especially the one with the blue eyeshadow, which was also photoshopped. The publicity photograph chosen was the most appealing but probably most unlike the child at the time.
    I’ll keep looking for your comments and will have a look at the photographs. I’m not convinced about the identical twin, one little blond girl is very like another. The blood in the flat could have been there a year, a body can be frozen for a year. She wasn’t at school yet and are there photographs of the three children together in 2006/7? Again, the make-up in some of the photos may have helped to obscure identity.
    No medical record because both are doctors? But going to school and interacting with other children and teachers could not be allowed?
    Back to the little films and photos, before they’re wiped off youtube. I’ve seen some very puzzling ones where Maddie’s age goes up and down like a yo yo.
    Keep me posted.

  16. Super Sleuth
    June 19th, 2011 at 4:19 am

    Alice

    Hi remember Mark Twain said “If you tell the truth you don’t have to remember anything” so how do you tell a lie on a repeatedly and over a long time. Well some or all of that lie has something in it that happened. Therefore easier to remember.

    Look at the post re the last photo and the discrepancy, well they are both trueish. One was a recollection of 2005 the other 2006, hence my theory of only one being there.

    Now you have heard the saying if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
    Well lets look at the kids club activity rotor, would you say that their is a very good chance that was the same as last year apart from the adjustment that has been highlighted.

    http://i37.tinypic.com/2rf97cy.jpg

    Now in Kate’s diary she stated kids mini tennis was on the was on Tuesday 01/05/2007. But that is not a Monday as indicated on the rotor.

    http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/kate-mccanns-diary/

    So lets say the 1st being a Monday is true, well holly molly the 1st of May 2006 is a Monday what a suprise.

    Now Jane Tanner not exactly the most feminine looking, (no offence Alice) lets look at her witness statement re the walking man with child and the subsequent photofit issued by Metodo 3. Download that photofit plus a photo of Jane Tanner, look similar. Both 35 years old, she is probably 5ft 10ins hair length about right in 2006. So is she describing herself in 2006 hence no one saw her walking down the road past Gerry and Jeff.

    Ok the twin theory, I have evidence that it is very likely that is true, based on basic birth records, the killer was that an IVF boy/girl identical twin is very rare, and all girls end up with Turners syndrome. MMC fits a Turners syndrom baby to a tee, short for her age in fact in the lowest 3% of child/height figures, cryed a lot and had colic again classic Turners syndrome. So then our Philomena god bless her opens mouth again before engaging brain and stated that GMC was born in England, guess what no record at all, so back to the twin looks like he was adopted to a guess who a McCann – xxxxxxxx so I looked for a xxxxxxx with the same birth month as Gerry and guess what bingo, and his middle name is the same as the twin and his first name is now Gerrys middle name. Oh the middle name is not a very common name. Unfortunately Scottish birth/adoption records are not on Genes reunited. Sounds spooky doesnt it.

    Also remember they moved into Rothley in late January 2006, so I assume moving house with 3 children would be stressful, and a holiday would be in order, and less chance that MMC was know too well by the neigbours.

    Not bad hey Alice especially its only taken me 15 days, so what are the police doing, nothing, the UK press dont want to know either.

    Am hoping tomorrow to get the Fraud squad involved regarding the fund, but I bet you when I mention the McCanns nothing will happen.

    I have 100% proof evidence that a certain photo cannot have been taken at the date/time/location all they have to do is confirm that items autenticity/who provided it/ and then if the McCanns still claim that is what it is bingo a result it will prove that MMC was not in PDL so the find MMC fund is a fraud. That will then undermine the entire tapas 9 statements about PDL and should get the Portugese police to reopen the case.

    Also their nuclear DNA matches 100% so any hair/blood/body fluids, etc match.
    So

  17. alice fitton
    June 22nd, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    Hello again. I think one has to go as far back as one can.
    From her book: in jan. 2004, when Madeleine was seven months old, we rented out our house and moved for a year to Amsterdam. Hmm interesting, and M was nearly 8 months then.
    And: ‘just twenty months old when sean and Amelie were born’ 1st feb 2005, she was well into her 21st month.
    Always used to be Kate Healy with a bank account in that name,always signed Kate Healy until M disappeared. She signed the playgroup registers as K. McC.
    I find the sudden Amsterdam angle strange. There has just been a case of multiple rape by a childminder for toddlers. Dozens of children are involved and police said the trend is towards very young children now.
    What were they doing in Amsterdam? K can’t have been working and weird to have your babies abroad, so where was MMcC born? She doesn’t seem sure of her dob. Move to Rothley beginning of 2006, house that was let, sold quickly? Rothley v. expensive house I believe, as you say, new neighbours. Every stone seems to have creepy crawlies under it!

  18. Super Sleuth
    June 22nd, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Alice

    Madeleime has a UK birth certificate but there are doubts over her actual birth date, it is rumoured to be 12/03 not 12/05.

    http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2011/05/parents-did-not-register-maddie-at.html

    I am still convinced she never went to PDL why no Madeleine DNA in flat 5a, spooky

  19. alice fitton
    June 23rd, 2011 at 6:43 am

    Hi, thanks for quick replies. Yes, I now remember seeing somewhere that the so-called birth certificate is illegal, not filled in properly and no signature – looks more as if it was done much, much later.
    Yes, dob really in doubt. Why have twins in foreign country? Especially one where home births are far more common. Dr. Roberts has commented on various interviews where it is clear M is mentioned separately from the twins. I.e. never mentioned as ‘one of the children’. DNA really, really strange. Date on the tennis girl photo is 2 days AFTER disappearance. You may be right that she was never there. Their real problem is that the Portugese police isn’t as stupid as they thought. They were never offered a deal, that’s illegal in Portugal, not in US – been watching too many movies at home?
    All things betray thee -who betrayest me….
    I’m now writing a work of ‘fiction’ – I do like the money angle, look at the results, the ‘fruits’ of the whole affair:
    lotsamoney for: Murat, McC’s and family, T9… money laundering ‘detectives’. Yes, I do like the money angle a lot!
    KMcC is rather fond of her own ‘beauty’ -good figure, wonder if realy births ever took place at all. One of the first things she said was that adverse comments were due to people jealous of her beauty…. Give her a daffodil(narcissus) that woman! Her ‘beauty’ is fading fast under the stress I notice…
    Wish we could get together and sort it – I still think some of your ideas may be over the top, but perhaps …
    Also, why aren’t the twins taken away from them? DNA tests on them wouldn’t be a bad idea either..

  20. Super Sleuth
    June 24th, 2011 at 4:03 am

    Alice

    Well I gave the McCann Scotland yard detectives some info that proves she never went to PDL if they prove its authenticity, amazingly they have never seen this photo despite it having been shown on TV, holy molly, then I get treated like some idiot asked me if that was Madeleine McCann in the photo, helo Mr Plod I have never seen her, has he so how the hell does anyone know what she looks like only what the McCanns provided, holly molly Mr Plod if they have something to hide they could give you any picture. Logic would be drop everything find out who sent that photo, verify with the McCanns that is what thet say it is, and then arrest them bingo three / four phone calls now I find my computer has been attacked my trash bin that was at the back of the house has been emptied spooky.

    I even bet you they think that flat 5a is a Mark Warner property in the complex because he had the use of the Mark Warner facilities, wrong guess who owns it in 2007, a Mrs Ruth Margret (not related) McCann, spooky, in 2006 it was owned by the same woman her late husband and two other people, mmm bet those other two are Kate and Gerry. She even admits that the McCanns paid her £1500 so whats on the Mark Warner holiday that Dr Payne booked was it 3 or 4 flats if its 4 who used the other one.

    Also why no 2006 holiday, why no financial records provided, holly molly could it be that in PDL a McCann / Tapas 7 used an ATM card or an entry on one of their credit card statements with a Mark Warner holiday booked.

    Now lets say Gerry is a Freemanson, cant grass up another one can he, but could he be giving subtle hints in these photos. Alice download the tennis ball photo, enlarge it and look at her right hand, clearly you can see a line between hand/wrist so its been cut in why? then look at the tennis ball what can you see, two X’s a 0 but the top left bugged me, could it be a bad 6. Two X’s in Roman numbers is 20, so we have a possible 6 a 0 and a 20, 2006??????????? holly molly what are the chances of that happening, without it being deliberate. There are plenty more all pointing at David Payne, and summer 2006.

    Trust me Alice I am not a doctor, would rather die then let any of that lot get near me.

    So maybe my ideas are not that much off the mark after all, and if so what have I dug up, something that will bring down a lot of top people.

    Look forward to your thoughts on the tennis ball photo.

  21. alice fitton
    June 24th, 2011 at 6:04 am

    Hi,before I look at all the photographs just a quick thought: it all seems to be about Gerry, with the shadowy figure of Payne in the background. Gerry must not be annoyed, or inconvenienced. Looking right back into G’s life would be useful. this all started a long, long time ago. I’m tracking the Amsterdam angle. dob of the twins for instance and registration. Looking at the photographs of Mmc , the real mmc seems always to have these ‘heavy’ eyes, almost old eyes you could say. I would say the tennis ball girl is the real one, the famous poster is a bleached out version of the girl when she was a lot younger.
    Read a comment by Gerry not long ago to the effect that the information was now so widely scattered and confused, it would never be clear. This seemed to be said with some degree of satisfaction…. and I still like the money angle as the motivating factor. Everything was in place just a tad too soon!

  22. Super Sleuth
    June 25th, 2011 at 1:53 am

    Alice

    Like I say it happened in 2006 plenty of time to fix things up.

    Suggest you check this lot out,

    http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=madeleine+mccann+everton+shirt+photo&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Fi2&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=np&prmd=ivnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=hoEFTrP4NIe5hAextM3QDQ&ved=0CCIQsAQ&biw=1304&bih=590

    Photo 1 is not the same person as in photo 2.

  23. alice fitton
    June 25th, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Yes, quite right. the second girl is wearing make-up again as well. There are an awful lot of made-up little girls in the photos- absolutely not done by toddlers who would make a mess of it – and probably only half of them are maddie. Just going through the photographs – see: thelostmarketingploy/2011/05/gerry-superimposed-into-photo-of-kate.html. Supposedly soon after birth of M.

    If they paid Ruth McC 1500 pounds, that’s quite a lot, unless it was a time share, which is likely. I don’t think MW is involved, where the hell was G in 2006. Hospital records? His creditcards etc. were conveniently stolen in june 2007, which shouldn’t have stopped financial records being submitted. So much help from so many sources…

    I will try to look into the Amsterdam birth cert. of the twins. Would be easier to ‘adjust’ the certificates?

    Also look at the Dr. Martin Roberts analysis: e.g. Kate: I know that what happened is not due to … I know it happened under other circumstances.
    GMcM added: I said to Kate: I wonder how long it will be before someone says ‘I wonder if he had anything to do with this.’ The circumstances are such that PHYSICALLY it is impossible that I was involved. ‘!!!!
    If he wasn’t there in 2006, that would be quite right!

    Their publicity was spot on from day one: just discovered that they were amongst many waiting for audience with the Pope which lasted about 20 seconds- so much for ‘Rome is preparing itself for our visit’. I expect the Pope might by now know what the priest knows.He certainly chucked them off the Vatican website pretty quickly.

    If M was killed in 2006 – no accident at all, I’m sure. Yes, loads of time.

  24. Super Sleuth
    June 27th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    Hi Alice

    How does this sound died 03/08/2006, body was moved on 29-30/05/2007 when the Kate and Gerry show met the Godfather of Paedophilea the Pope. The trip to Huelva on the 03/08/2007 was a 1 year after death trip hence the missing two hours, exact location that lake 49km from Huelva 37º 26′ 38″ N, 6º 34′ 21″ W suggest you google earth that location, looks an ideal area to me.

    Still no joy from the mob at Scotland Yard, so emailed the Home Secretary, tomorrow letter to the PM, I will keep trying.

  25. Super Sleuth
    June 28th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Alice,

    You are not going to believe this one, yet another pesky McCann popping up, and guess where, yep a child minder at the Ocean Club in PDL.

    link http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAULINE-MCCANN.htm

    Of course not related, yes well, this is getting to spooky for my liking, a McCann under every bed.

    Have you checked out those pictures yet.

  26. alice fitton
    June 29th, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    Hello SuperSleuth, I don’t believe it! So there is Ruth McC, Pauline McC, is this a reunion? What are the odds? Then there is John McC, giving up his day job the day following the abduction? Philomena who is expert at disinformation, what the hell is going on here? Shame and scandal in the family..
    I’m busy looking for info on IVF, because I read in two different posts that G isn’t the donor and in another that K isn’t the donor either. I think of surrogacy now, altogether explains the total lack of bonding with all the children. I’m also posting on Steel Magnolias. I’ll keep watching here too.
    The Met aren’t going to do anything. They’re not meant to find anything, this was just to shut Gordon Brown up about the IMF, some sleazy connection with the McC case. Got that from Steel M. really interesting. Don’t know how to include links. So stupid..

  27. super sleuth
    June 30th, 2011 at 8:10 am

    Just sending a letter to the PM, pissed off to find out now that info the pigs said they didnt know about and tried to put me down is in David Paynes 11/04/08 police statement. Cover up or what.

    This will get them going if the PM reads this what will he think me knowing whats in an English police statement, officers name everything, I await a bang at the door.

    Oh and I think R McCann has a grand daughter so there must be a least one or two more of those pesky McCanns so how many Mccanns are there.

    Alice what would you say if I have a hunch that G is adopted hint hint something Philomena let out that he was born in England, he wasnt so hint hint say no more daddy.

    Am working on the forged Kate signatures have you read her latest fiction need to know what page number she stated that she was only a Kate Mccann after the 4/5/7 before that she used Kate Healy.

  28. alice fitton
    July 1st, 2011 at 4:58 am

    Hi, have been looking at a lot of pro McC material in the interest of balance and can only surmise/conclude:
    probable they did not do the deed themselves but they know ‘how it happened’ . The contacts and publicity were in place well before 3/5.
    What if an ‘abduction’ was planned and went wrong, child dies in apartment either in 2006 or early in the holiday. The original abduction plan goes ahead.
    Problem: no DNA of Maddie in 5a, seems to me almost impossible to achieve, however hard you clean. Ergo: she was’t there in 2007.
    But blood and cadaver have been in 5a. DNA from Maddie was supplied before the dogs did their job?
    Or: possible that abduction scenario (for this one does need someone who will place the child elsewhere and this would not be an impossibility) was planned for 2006 and went wrong, child dies. So 2006 a write-off, flat hardly used or not at all till 2007. Re-run with use of other child of abduction and adjusted plan.
    This would allow the McC’s to feel little guilt and go for the big money as planned. They can truly say they were not involved in Maddie’s death. The whole feeling of the post 3/5 circus is one of a planned campaign finally taking off. I really don’t like Uncle John too much either….
    The choice of photographs, the poster and another one where she looks most appealing with her mouth open, would please the public most. However, those are from when she was about three. Films show her as a short little girl, not the rangy toddler with the tennis balls. No way would anyone find her with the help of those photographs. Of course her eye defect could be prominently displayed, no danger there – just a bonus.
    The only trouble was to finally dispose of the body and the clothing on which the DNA was found. Can these be linked to the size of the body in 2006 and possible photographs? To dispose of the body the clothes would have to be removed if she was ‘abducted’ in her pink pyjamas. That would explain where the cadaver scent was found.
    So wat is in operation is plan B, plan A having miscarried the previous year? Plan B needs tweaking a lot and I don’t now think all of the T7 are involved. But JT stands out as does Payne. It’s really very easy to lean on people to ‘help’ you out. If they find they’ve been telling big lies instead of little ones, it’s too late to change the story. Losing your job or career is no option.
    How do you like this?

  29. Super Sleuth
    July 1st, 2011 at 6:18 am

    Alice

    Anythings possible here the more you dig the more worrying it gets. Dont like all these extra McCanns popping up to be honest.

    I hope that if MMC died it was an accident, but option 2 is well a perfect crime how about 3 to 9 months in prison, get cleared and end up £20m + better off. Not saying anymore on that but with the gruesome twosome one never knows.

    Stll trying to find that page number that Kate said she was a Healy pre MMC disappearance so I can get a photo of that page, thereby putting those creche records in doubt.

    Will do some more work on it later today,

  30. alice fitton
    July 1st, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    Hi, just back from tennis. Nadal won! Right, I think the only solution is to print out all blogs and go through them that way, scrolling through, it’s now just too much info.
    Did you know there is a CAT file on GMcC? Nr. is known but it’s empty. Look on Steel Magnolias.
    Right, just quick completely fictional of course, scenario. I have three IVF surrogate kids. Bored to tears with our jobs, we deserve better, such a wonderful couple. Loved to bits by our parents. We have sexual preferences which do not bear the light of day. Eldest child is coming up to play school age and is precocious. Hmm. Also various things not quite right with her, we hatch a plan: someone will pay us to ‘abduc’t her. We will then set up a worldwide hunt for her, chances of being found as good as e.g. Natascha in Austria. The buyer isn’t going to squeal, we will never find her and so we can give up the day job and besides, because of our inclinations, we have a lot of dirt on a lot of useful people.
    Plan A fails as ‘abductor’ messes up. We now ‘know what happened’. Poor us, we meant well, she would have been taken care of (this sentiment comes through in many interviews) and the child would have seen any sexual activity as normal.
    Plan B, regroup and get as many people to join you as possible. Once they’re in, no way to get out without incriminating yourself.
    Hence, none of the T7’s left their children alone. Payne had a baby monitor with him at all times. The ‘leaving children alone’ was necessary for the script to work. They complied for whatever reasons, I don’t think for a moment that the T7 are a close unit. The two I singled out earier, Payne and JT, JT especially, she is just too damn helpful.
    The McC’s aspirations are clearly to be celebrities. Naming their ‘children’ alone: Amelie, Sean, Madeleine, all very posh names. Kate and Gerry? Not so much… social climbers, watching too many movies.
    Now: how did plan evolve, because they’re clearly not original thinkers. TV. Amber Alert, look! Microchipping all humans now jumping on the bandwagon, Gordon Brown, government press – wonderful, a never-ending story to trot out when you need to bury bad news. Give these people the best lawyers and press you can get, etc…..

  31. alice fitton
    July 2nd, 2011 at 12:53 am

    Niki
    26/06/2011 at 6:29 pm
    Something happened May 1st

    May 2nd 2007 Jez Wilkins statement:

    That evening myself and my partner attended the ‘Tapas’ restaurant which is part of the hotel complex at the swimming pool. We sat down to eat at 7:30 pm. After about forty five (45) minutes Jerry appeared as did one of his friends. I believe it was Russell. They sat at the next table. We naturally engaged in conversation about everyday things. We spoke about childcare. That night my family were using the creche’s facility. We found out that the group of families were occupying ground floor flats near the swimming pool and they were leaving the children by themselves in order for them to go to the restaurant in the evenings. They would then go regularly to check the children who would be asleep.

    I found out that Jerry was a cardiologist in a Hospital. At this time his wife was putting the children to bed.

    1) May 2nd was the evening Jez heard the children were left alone NOT before.

    2) Kate was ‘ putting the children to bed’…NOT checking the children, that knocks out the theory they left the children alone together.

    3) Rachael Oldfield claims she did not attend dinner that night , she was sick.

    4) The creche record signed for May 2nd was in the name of Healy and not McCann.

    Kate goes into overdrive in her book to explain she was a HEALY until May 4th after that she became a McCann. I believe all of this is to explain the creche signature for May 2nd. IMO Madeleine by this time was dead.

    The above is from Steel Magnolias site. I haven’t read the book yet, will try today at library as it is the last book in ther world I would buy! I had the impression the Healy McCann was right at the beginning.
    question for you: I thought you’d found birth certificates with the name McC Leary? Can’t find that post.

  32. Super Sleuth
    July 2nd, 2011 at 3:09 am

    Alice,

    So we have an additional apt 5a booked someone else taking ???? to the creche, and a faked video of MMC boarding the plane, also the twins creche was not in the same part of the complex. I think MMC never went and on the 2/5/2007 Kate Healy got ???? and that day she was removed from the scene.

    3/5/2007 the fake abduction, the Smith sightings well Evie was sick or not so she could have been used by Russell/Gerry as futher abduction evidence.

    Now the blood well MMC fell on boarding the plane as per the fake video, well that fall was a set up, a version of the old tying shoelaces together trick This was an excuse for the blood in the apt. In apt 5a I recall a syringe having been found, so take some blood and put a tad behind the sofa hoping the police will see it. But the maid cleaned the flat on the 2/5/2007 so it was washed away. DNA well ???? had stayed at the UK address so a match.

    The ???? girl was probably terminated off scene, and the renault used to dispose of the body. Another possibility, and the cadaver odour well that could be MMC or someone else from the previous visit.

    Well ???? would be a liability if she was to open mouth and drop the McCanns in it.

  33. alice fitton
    July 2nd, 2011 at 9:16 am

    Hi SSl,
    Just occurred to me that we can measure the tennisball girl (who is also the airplane and in the bus video judging from her lanky legs) we have a known measurement in the diameter of a tennisball in the same plane as the girl. I’m making it at least 14 tennis balls high and that’s (say the balls are 7cm, 2.7 ” diam) is about 98 cm, 3’2″. Is about right for 5 /6 yrs old?
    The blood story and grazing of knee is total fabrication to explain the blood spatter in 5a. Story is post dogs…
    I think this girl could be about 5 yrs old. Same girl in the swimming pool photo, but easy to reduce size when pasting. G made a mistake there, since he later published the swimming pool girl all by herself, his elbow having disappeared from the photo. The photo showing happy little family which I gave the link for, (25/6 posting)has some interesting comments on the clothes they’re wearing. Same as they had ‘3 years later’ thrifty people!
    I still think your earlier idea is right, 2006 is a possibility.
    Comment on the book from psychologist: every story about the holiday indicates Maddie wasn’t there.
    I can access the book all next week in the library, so send me a few things you’re looking for. Mind you, as far as I can tell its not about M at all but the sainted parents.

  34. Super Sleuth
    July 2nd, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    Alice

    Hi will do some more digging took a few days off looking so as not to get blinded by b/s start again with a clear mind, yes just that page number will do for the KH to KM comment, cant sleep so tonights task match creche records to KM/KH diary entries and statement see if their are some errors their as well, the more errors the better. If we can nail that she never went well the SFO should get involved hit them in the pocket so to speak. Also need to find which paper RM made that comment about GM/KH renting that place £1500 is a tad high for a week more like 8 months fits in with 2006.

  35. alice fitton
    July 4th, 2011 at 8:02 am

    Hello Ssl, Page 333, right at the beginning of chapter 23. First paragraph. Just so we don’t forget: the opening line in chapter 1 is also: ‘Before the 3rd of May I was Kate Healy.’ etc.

    Gerry is youngest of the family, Kate only child. Both fathers carpenters, we really have to get away from this ‘middle class’ idea. A lot is explained by their social climbing…
    page 46. K had never been to Portugal, but Gerry had been over for a few golf weekends a few years earlier.

    p 39 second ivf treatment in Amsterdam, but found the doctors so unsympathetic and also speaking bad English! that she left on the 1st dec. to have twins in UK.

    p44, Madeleine knew how to spell her name by age 3 – 31/2.???

    There were mini breaks with the children to amongst others: Donegal, Guernsey and Spain.

    and last but not least: on the 4th of May, she and G looked for M for at least and hour! page 84.

    Looked up size of tennis balls, which makes the girl over a metre. M was 90 cm. About 4 “shorter.
    I think you’re 100% right on Turners, and there were two eggs..
    Page numbers may be slightly out as I read it in Dutch translation.

  36. Super Sleuth
    July 5th, 2011 at 12:30 am

    Alice

    Great I will get a photo of those pages later today have found the flat article last night it is in a Mirror Paper atricle. Now lets see what the plods say on this lot.

    Unless they have an IQ of an amobea what bit of MMC was never there, doesn’t compute. Then if they ignore this we have a major cover up on our hands.

  37. alice fitton
    July 5th, 2011 at 1:52 am

    Glad it was useful.
    Re: police. Why not get in touch with the ex-comm. Manchester, John Stalker? He has said publicly that he thinks they’re hiding a big secret. He seems a straight enough guy. Perhaps he can give you some pointers?

    all these McC’s, the flat is pivotal. We may be wrong about 2006 but the plan was at least that old!

    good luck.

  38. Super Sleuth
    July 5th, 2011 at 3:49 am

    Alice,

    Will let you know whats happening, will go down the supermarket with camera and photograph those pages, must remember to go to the fiction section, thats where I keep moving them to. Hope no one has bought the last 4 from yesterday though.

  39. alice fitton
    July 7th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    this is from the site ‘missing maddie’ re tooth brush sharing of whole family of McC’s! First I’d heard of it.

    Re: Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 now, Toothbrush sharing.
    matthew on Fri 24 Jun – 22:56

    For there to be no dna of maddie in that apartment speaks volumes

    clothes maddie had worn-washed = no dna
    sandals-shared =no dna
    hairbrush-shared,no hairs = no dna
    pillow case-no hairs = no dna

    The pj were in an impossible position early days regarding the above & treating the mccanns with kid gloves but with hindsight they made a mistake here

    of course the mccanns obviously didnt help by clumsily washing clothes,walls,tiles,letting all & sundry to trample through their apt,anyone would think they had never heard of dna ;-0

    as ive just seen on steel magnolia the only evidence we have of madeleine in 5a is the cadaver odour detected behind the sofa & in the wardrobe…bearing in mind no one has died there…i know it does not 100% mean it was madeliene but if i was the mccanns my heart would sink at this news,instead they have an innocent explanation…Again

    matthew
    Reg Member

  40. Super Sleuth
    July 8th, 2011 at 12:24 am

    Alice

    Got that photo hope it comes out ok. Also found out she used/registered as KMH in the surgery, therefore would have to sign all prescriptions KMH not KMC. Still digging will keep you up to date, still thing 03/08/06 is the date. 1 year after the Huelva trip, not the 3 months people are thinking of.

  41. Super Sleuth
    July 9th, 2011 at 4:30 am

    Alice

    Got some more data on the JP files their is a copy of the McCanns baggage labels for the outward flight, and only 4 passenger check in stickers not 5.

  42. alice fitton
    July 9th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Interesting!
    Meanwhile, trawling through other sites. Gerry blogged about a fridge at the villa which didn’t work and he took it to the dump and bought a new one. Nice of him. Said how supportive people at the dump had been. Blog disappeared within days. Someone thinks that the blogs may have been a way to pass messages on. E.g. fridge is empty, evidence dumped, M. buried. Neat, I think. Funnily enough, it’s what I thought years ago when they published the blue eyeshadow photo, like a message to someone, we’ve got dirt on you, don’t forget.
    My prediction is: SY wont find anything conclusive (although they’ve had it for years) but will insist on closing down fund. Cameron may get Murdoch to stop publicity,( in exchange for bskyb deal) wow, that will hurt!!

  43. Super Sleuth
    July 10th, 2011 at 2:44 am

    Alice

    I think either GM pr KM are trying to tell us who did it. All the pictures released have a message, ie the tennis ball photo, why have a pasted in hand with a tennis ball with 2006 on it. XX = 20 top right is a 0 and top left looks like a 6 to me, check that out.

  44. alice fitton
    July 11th, 2011 at 2:23 am

    I had this weird theory, which fits in with the fact they’ve publicly stated:K ‘it happened under other circumstances, I know what happened’. G: ‘the circumstances were such that I could not have been Physically there’.
    So what if M was to be passed on to paedo (payment?) IVF child, ADHD.
    Plan A goes wrong DP may have know about it. ‘The night they found her..’ also a quote.
    So say 1/5 they find her dead, flurry of phone calls, possibly the customer? Plan B, because only complication now have to stage abduction themselves. Rest of plan will work fine.
    I also keep thinking of how often K keeps saying she hopes the abductor will treat her well and look after her. Part of the script for Plan A?
    But all this could also have happened in 2006, or the client found in 2006 and e.g. blue eyeshadow photo is a message. Tennis ball is interesting. She’s quite tall there, no Turner’s, just ADHD. Coloboma incidentally is much less noticable in other photos, has been enhanced.

  45. Super Sleuth
    July 11th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    Alice

    Had an email from Companies House regarding how long it takes to set up a Company guess here is their answer.

    The time scale for the normal service of and incorporation of a company, is 8/10 working days then the certificate is sent out in the normal post this can take up to three days.

    Remember the 7th of May 2007 was a Bank Holiday in the UK. So looks like it was set up prior to 3rd of May 2007.

  46. Super Sleuth
    July 12th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    Alice

    Been digging again and found this gem.

    What will I need to setup a Bank Account ?

    All banks must comply with stringent money laundering regulations and therefore will need to carryout a series of checks before opening the new account. You should keep the documents you have received when your company was registered safe as these will need to be produced before the account is opened. Most banks like to see an original copy of your certificate of incorporation (printed on the correct paper), a copy of your memorandum and articles and any share certificates that have been issued. You may also be required to show your passport to confirm your identity.

    How long does it take ?

    Depending on the number of checks that the bank carries out to confirm the identity of the directors, secretary and the company itself it can take anything between 1-4 weeks to open a new company bank account. To make the process as quick and simple as possible I would recommend that you confirm over the telephone what documentation is required so you can have this at hand when you first meet the business manager. It is also important to remember that the banks will usually need to see all the directors and the secretary for the company in person, if you have officers situated overseas then you should confirm the requirements of the bank as early as possible in order to make any necessary arrangements.

  47. alice fitton
    July 13th, 2011 at 7:23 am

    Wow! There simply wasn’t time or even opportunity. Brother John hard at work? What job did he do before?
    Well done! Was G adopted? Would partly explain his personality.
    For my part I was looking into the DNA fables. I now find the Birmingham lab was nobbled, without a doubt. First report, no doubt on DNA. Suddenly second report: Samples are found to have been contaminated, then lost. No proof of DNA. Now they’re closing down! The tentacles of their protectors go far. For who had the power to change those results? I remember reading a scientist saying he was amazed no action was taken. 15 out of 18 alleles matched. This is sooo dirty. And so long in the planning. How are we going to find out about 2006? Holiday in Ireland, but in her book K mentions the twins and M used to travelling: Ireland, Guernsey and Spain…
    I’v got a really large piece of paper (2 x 2 meter and am going to make an incident wall with it.
    A separate wall of photographs in chronological order. She’ didn’t have Turner’s but ADHD. Tennis girl is significant, quite a tall child as well for 4. The craft of misdirection! I really hate these people.

  48. Super Sleuth
    July 13th, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    Alice

    Still digging have a few more lines to work on, if I was to say to you that the solicitors Bells Wells and Braithwaite the McCanns solicitors are a very old established company incorporated in 24th January 2007 and the solicitors The International Family Law Group, the one mentioned in the 16th and 17th May 2007 TV interviews as to where to send your cheques to were incorporated on 15th March 2011.

  49. Super Sleuth
    July 13th, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    Alice

    John worked for a drugs firm AstraZeneca, as a representitive, I presume he was a salesman.

    Gerry was adopted I beleive Philomena mentioned once he was born in England, no record of Gerry McCann being born in England.

    Will let you know whats happening.

    PS John McCann reminds me of Yoda fron Star Wars well Gerry said he felt someones presence in 5a so he must be Darth Vader, and Jane Tanner a Klingon Bird of Prey well she has the ability to cloak her self and walk past 2 people unseen. That makes Kate Dr Who who can travel through time with the kids hence they seem to look younger when they should be older.

    (Sorry just my sad sense of humour)

  50. alice fitton
    July 14th, 2011 at 7:19 am

    You know, I think she’d hardly notice such mistakes. The twins are just accessories, their age is really of no importance. Their arrogance will be their downfall.
    Jumping back: I think Huelva is out, although they were doing something there. Getting money from the money launderers Metodo? It’s just too risky and too public.
    But did anyone borrow their Renault at any one time? I just ‘feel’ that they wouldn’t do the disposal themselves. I believe the car clocked up quite a few miles in the first week.
    Whoever did it, none of the T7 and not likely to be Murat, but perhaps a mate of his? The blogs might have a clue, the fridge episode etc. perhaps that was the deal. G to do the fridge (that story was wooshed so quickly from his blog that I don’t think it was a decoy, just a message) and someone else to do the disposal. May have been burned, much the safest thing to do. I think the card did around 550 km in one week.
    There is something exceedingly slimy about J McC.

  51. Super Sleuth
    July 14th, 2011 at 11:45 am

    Alice

    I think body was moved between the 29th to 30th May 2007 when they went to Rome by a friend of Murat the body is near Huelva they went to there to pay some respect. Hence my 03/08/06 theory one year after the event.

  52. alice fitton
    July 14th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Good one! doing it themselves was just too risky. If the PJ know the unusual places they stopped at, they might get somewhere.
    I’ve just blown up the photograph of M which is on the cover of ‘Vanished’,facing left. Her right eye has the merest spot in it. The coloboma was hugely exaggerated. It’s one of the few photographs where the eye is clearly visible.
    What with the Companies Register, the banks,and the four boarding passes, you’ve done masses.
    I’m posting like mad on Missing Madeleine, it’s all very useful.
    They have closed down their facebook a few times today. Someone had posted the Gaspar’s statement on the wall.
    Only thing with 29/30 5 is why leave it so long? At least a year, or perhaps just five or six months. Yes, I can take 6 months but not a year. Late autumn break (cheaper again). 6 months they could have hidden it, how come DNA from hairs in Rothley still? We want all of 2006 info!!

  53. Super Sleuth
    July 14th, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    Alice,

    Hair does not rot can take years look at the Victorians they kept a locket of hair from a dead husbamd/daughter and it has lasted up to 100 years.
    Why so long well the body was near PDL what did KM say within 10 miles in a cellar change cellar to freezer, but when the police did not beleive the abduction theory well a dead body would be sought and a freezer would be on the radar so to speak, but not for a missing child.

    Thats why I said August 2006 thats 8 months could not risk going back the same time in 2007 in case someone remembered them, thats why they wanted that book banned if someone read it and saw that they had said that they had not been to PDL before someone would have come forward.

    Have stirred up Companies House again regarding their website not displaying the required information they must display, and the fact that they are remitting money into an account which does not match the companies name, I gather that it is not allowed by law, also asked for the date paper work was received if they find its before I am sure they will instigate police action.

    Also donated 1p to the fund by Pay Pal just to see what sort of back up I would get from them, nothing at all just a Pay Pal confirmation, thats also not right not getting a receipt.

    So had a goodish day I think. A cup of tea and start digging again.

  54. alice fitton
    July 14th, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    Re the hairs: just thought they don’t do much cleaning at home, but when on holiday! Washing laundry, buying cleaning materials at the supermarket. Such a busy little housewife. Despite all these facilities provided at no cost.
    Like the Pay Pal! What with the hacking scandal and what lies behind it, they might be a bit worried.
    Perhaps a lot of people should send 1 p. Will that occasion larger transfer costs?

  55. Super Sleuth
    July 14th, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    Alice

    KM said that they had left MM room as it was prior to going to PDL, so why not 8 months would explain the hair.

    Also found out that the merchandising pay pal donations for the fund is run by a company called Infohost in Ullapool same town that PM lives and it looks like our PM may have been a director of what I dont know I dont have the cash to order the report.

    No to send money via Pay Pal is free, they have to pay a fee plus a percentage when they transfer the money from Pay Pal to their bank.

    But if say 100,000 people did it would sure clog up the system especialy if you email them 4 times a day requesting a receipt that complies with Companies act and VAT requirements.

  56. Super Sleuth
    July 15th, 2011 at 3:23 am

    Alice

    Guess what Catriona Baker MM’s child minder was in PDL at MW in 2006 she stated that in her UK statement of 18/04/2008 but told the JP in 06/05/07 she only started in 2007.

    So liar I guess or is she involved ie the child minder who messed up in 2006 could be.

    Oh well lets see what else I find.

  57. Super Sleuth
    July 16th, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    Alice

    Looks like the good ship Madeleine’s Fund has hit an iceberg, only KM is left as a director, so much for women and children first.

  58. alice fitton
    July 17th, 2011 at 1:51 am

    http://www.chris-uk.org/another-cover-up/former-p-m-gordon-brown-dunblane

    Where did you find that? But Kate (that book’s really gone to her head) is now joining ( D.express) hunt for just any missing people.
    Link above came up in Missing Madeleine.

    Catriona doesn’t look like the sharpest knife in the drawer. Would believe pretty well anything in return for fame and fortune. Didn’t she make the most of the publicity by saying she wanted to be an actress?

    Site Admin: Alice, it was the other nanny who had been an actress while in New Zealand: Charlotte Pennington.

  59. Super Sleuth
    July 17th, 2011 at 2:22 am

    Alice

    Their is a website that you can check out directors names, so I put in the post code of the Madeleine Fund and matched it to the last Companies House return which listed all the directors, they are no longer their, so I checked by individual name again disappeared.

    Also found out GM is a director of 2 companies in Oxfordshire using Dr Gerald Patrick McCann date of birth 06/1968 but cannot find out the names that costs £21.60.

    Am working on another couple of leads will start after my coffee.

  60. alice fitton
    July 18th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    I found one entry in Google, when I typed in GPM director and it was on a credit site, Isn’t that just because he had to be vetted re finance access of the Firm?

  61. Super Sleuth
    July 18th, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Hi Alice

    Have had no joy from Companies House so have asked again.

  62. alice fitton
    July 20th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    In her book K calls it a ‘company’ several times. I’ll look up the quote for you. Most of the original director are listed in the book. Pretty nearly all family. And now I’ve read a suggestion somewhere that John McCann was the father of Maddie by artificial insemination. Hmm. Looking at John, it would have to be, don’t you think?

  63. Super Sleuth
    July 20th, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    Hi Alice

    Got a reply from companies house, 15/05/07 was the date papers were recieved for incorporation. They used the fast track service, why what was the rush, it costs lots more.

    JM the dad oh dear not good hope not.

    Site Admin: Use Companies House for your documents and they are only £1 per filing.

  64. Super Sleuth
    July 21st, 2011 at 7:35 am

    Hi Alice

    Am trying to find out why GM has a passport issued by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office and not the regular Passport Office, so where was he in 2004 certainly not the UK.

    Site Admin: Super Sleuth, it’s nothing controversial. Gerry was working in Amsterdam for a year. When you live abroad and apply for a UK passport that’s how it is endorsed.

  65. alice fitton
    July 21st, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    Curious though, because he had to have the passport renewed at the British Embassy or Consulate. Passport must have been nearly out of date when he went to Amsterdam.
    I’ve come across the work of an Irish independent journalist who has worked out the birth of the Fund. I’ll look it up and send you the link. You’re right, it was in fact a 24hour job, mostly by the lawyers.
    I’m leaning more and more towards no Maddie in 2007. In K’s book no photographs at all of PdL and M.
    Quite a few of Kate though…

  66. alice fitton
    July 21st, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2924-at-last-a-critical-review-of-the-madeleine-book?highlight=Fund+irish+journalist

    this is the link, very interesting!

  67. alice fitton
    July 21st, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t16117-film-scripts-scenarios#332557

    This is a link which I posted on another forum today.

  68. Super Sleuth
    July 21st, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    Site Admin

    Has anyone on this site purchased anything from the Madeleine Fund ie a teeshirt etc, if so did they get an invoice/receipt if so did it have a VAT registration number on it, as they have to be VAT registered as their turnover exceeds £70k per annum.

    Site Admin: Hi Super Sleuth. Someone from Germany made a donation to the fund back in 2007. They supplied details to the site but it is only a PayPal receipt to show that they made a payment. We are not aware of a VAT number. Why not contact the Fund directly to find out their VAT number?

    Also, in reading some of your posts regarding setting up a UK company, there are some problems with your line of thinking. In the UK, you can buy off the shelf companies. This is done to expedite things because you obviously don’t have to wait any length of time to have a company up and running when you go down this route. It also has several other advantages. Some of those off the shelf companies are sold with bank accounts AND they may have been set up a long time ago so they have a history. Indeed, it is not out of the ordinary to buy a company that is already 20 years old! The only practical requirement with an off the shelf company is a possible name change and a change of directors. This can all be done the same day so don’t be misled by Companies House telling you it takes 8 – 10 days. Do you have proof that Madeleine’s Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited was not an off the shelf company?

  69. Super Sleuth
    July 21st, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P1/01_VOLUME_Ia_Page_06.jpg
    Alice link to boarding passes.

  70. Super Sleuth
    July 30th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    Hi Alice

    Found anything new MM seem to be fixed on the 3/5/7 scenario, tried to log in cant, not even an email explaining why, I think we were called Trolls or something. Guess they just cant handle the fact that there is no physical evidence of MMC in Apt.5a suppose that is a bit hard for them to swallow.

  71. Super Sleuth
    July 30th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Site admin

    Found out it was a same day service set up and Incorporation, with a bank account ready by the 17/05/07. An off the wall company, well no evidence on that, but a company called Madeleine’s Fund Leave No Stone Unturned Limited, would have to involve a name change, cant imagine anyone having a company called that. Now the bank account well even if it was an off the wall company, banks would need some evidence of new directors etc, and why is the bank account not in the same name as the company.

    Sent the fund a small donation again only a Pay Pal receipt no confirmation from the Fund ie a receipt have requested guess what no joy. Now as it is a company and donations are included in their income, even items not VAT able must be accounted for, so much for being open, but I have another idea so lets see what happens their.

  72. alice fitton
    July 30th, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    Yes, got a post from blossom calling both of us trolls and nutters. Penned a rap over the knuckles and contacted administrator.
    Blossom described herself as ‘witty, satirical and clever with words….’ in her profile.
    Antoinette thinks I’m OK but she left a post to Blossom saying ‘Pooh is gone as you know..’ Weird. I didn’t know and other people, one who started a topic on you and 2006 wants to know where you’ve gone… buildersbum I believe.
    Hey, Clarrie is gone! is it finally becoming unstitched?
    I have a horrible feeling that the Fund is going to be the only thing we can get them on.
    Going to sleep now, I’ll keep on with this blog as well.

  73. Super Sleuth
    July 30th, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    Hi

    Thanks

    Have the opinion some people were begining to come round, maybe not to the 2006 theory but not a 2030hrs to 2200hrs event on the 3/5/7. Blossom I think got miffed when I didnt bite.

    Matthew backed me up on the Eddie the dog, cadaverine theory that proved death was 1hr 30mins + before discovery and removal to the wardrobe. Which if you beleive the Smith sightings at around 2145-2150hrs on 3/5/7, that would make death around 2020hrs or earlier, this is before they left the apartment. So plan over the next few days is to research calpol etc, to see if it is detectable if taken previously, ie in hair samples, I know certain drugs are detectable with a hair sample. If not and they stated that they had no given the children anything, what are they hiding, or are they lying.

    Then Catriona Baker telling porkies is also suspicious, told the PJ she started in the OC in PDL in 2007, UK police in 2006.

    See you tomorrow.

  74. BlackCat
    July 30th, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    I they were in finantial difficulty how could they afford to go on holiday abroad??? Did “someone else” pay for it…? Many people have come up with the idea that that holiday was not a simple family holiday…that it was nothing but…it was a gathering of people, a large group, that went far beyond the Tapas 9 group. A laerge group of people who shared a common interest, a common practice…
    The questions of the portuguese police about the McCanns and their friends finantial background were answered in a single A4 sheet, imagine, finantial and other information on a group of 9 people and it fitted all in a single A4 sheet!!! Concerning the McCanns, the information given stated that they had no credit cards or known bank accounts!!! So, one asks…how did they pay for the holiday??? If it was not them it must have been someone else…was it an “offer”, a “package holiday” courtesy of…?

  75. Super Sleuth
    July 30th, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    Hi Blackcat

    They have a bank account no one who is employed by the Goverment ie NHS is paid cash.

    Word out on other forums are that our Gerry is covered by a D notice, I think Alice may confirm that info is out there, maybe she will give me the link, hehehe the forum didnt like me, so got blocked hehehehe, otherwise I would post the link myself, it is saying now again this is just what is out there and could not be true, but its saying GM’s name was found to be included in “Operation Ore” hence the CATS number 19309 being included in the financial reports.

    Suggest you read the following link.

    http://www.chris-uk.org/another-cover-up/former-p-m-gordon-brown-dunblane

    Maybe maybe that is why he knows our Gordon Brown, and strings so to speak were pulled to scupper the investigation.

    So publishing his financial records in Portugal, well that could do a lot of damage.

  76. alice fitton
    July 31st, 2011 at 7:21 am

    http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t15691p120-mccanns-promote-book-in-belgium-and-holland

    did you mean this link? Otherwise tell me which one?

  77. Super Sleuth
    July 31st, 2011 at 7:50 am

    Maybe but I cant access the MM web sit not even as a guest, its the link contained within this link.

    So any gossip on the MM site.

  78. alice fitton
    July 31st, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    What ‘s the link about? perhaps I can get it from another site. Or copy it manually.

    Builders bum had found a flaw in your argument, Antoinette banned you because of the joke – it was pretty tasteless! Had a skinful? you’re too bouncy.
    Builderbum said you might be a WUM, what’s that?
    At the moment a lt of holier than thou going on and rubbish on motif, Dunblane and Masons, v. boring.
    Someone today listed stupid theories of cloning M, which I never said, wish people would read properly.
    you may mail at my name at alice.nl.

  79. Super Sleuth
    August 1st, 2011 at 1:22 am

    Hi,

    Well which joke the one about the McCann burgers, or the redneck joke, oh well, admitted had a bad sense of humour.

    Cloning mmm well thats more weird than my theory, but the lack of DNA Catriona having been there in 2006, 5a being a McCann owned, those creche records, and the photos where children seem to change their ages/looks etc just screams to me not there.

    Will mail you will later today ok.

    ps a WUM = Wind Up Merchant

  80. alice fitton
    August 2nd, 2011 at 8:23 am

    At least I can post here re cloning. I did go off the rails a bit there, but the point is, that Scotland seems to be first in this research, plus a recent article that human/animal – 130 experiments in the last few years. Point is that research could be worth a lot of money. Already experiments with implanting pig’s hearts into humans I think have read about, whether it has been done or not, don’t know.
    Still, I also pointed out IVF treatment with same donors but two related families could produce very similar offspring. Genetically speaking would be very interesting experiment. So some sort of protection from that angle?
    Just found from other member (who is bugging me a bit) that Gerry was on committee on nuclear medicine run by Gordon Brown’s brother.
    I just think our Ger had fingers in a few pies. Still think he’s small fry, really don’t rate his intelligence.
    I’ll check my mail.

  81. Dana
    April 29th, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    I think Healy snapped and killed Maddy. Then just got rid of little Maddys body and set a fund to pay the protectors and disposers. Her body is probably out at sea. Healy can’t relax about it and her face is old now. They didn’t know those dogs eddy and keela would be used and that gave the game away. The public is calling for a public inquiry that’s when mccann will get their day

  82. Stella
    July 29th, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    How long it still take before we hear from the Met?
    Somewhere I read that they dismissed the Metodo 3’s information, which is good news.
    I became impatient with this long story. It would be very human if the Scotland Yard would show some consideration towards us. How long will it take them to write the final report, with their conclusions?
    And are they in title to arrest the McCanns and send them to Algarve? Kate aged a terrible lot, after the UK got involved in the case. I fear for the twins’lives. How will the parents explain them that they are the perpetrators and that Maddie is dead?
    That is why I fear for the siblings’lives.
    And the parents could end up in committing suicide.
    May God protect Sean and Amelie.

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